RedState misstates Palin and misses the point. | Jen Kuznicki

Anger erupted on twitter after posted a photoshopped cleavage picture of Sarah Palin on his Diary, but the content of his post misstated her position, and shows how little he knows about the current fight going on in the GOP.

For all its buzz, RedState is a fairly static presence on the web.  For instance, you can miss reading it for about 2 years, and then jump back in, and they are saying the same thing, with the same people, pointing out the same circumstance, and frankly, being really nasty and angry in the comment section.

List says that Palin’s third party solution is part of the problem.  He knows she didn’t come up with a third party plan, and if he knows anything about boots-on-the-ground grassroots work, he would know that the third party idea is prevalent in the GOP rank and file. In his misleading post, List points to another RedState writer and how he has laid out the way to take over the GOP.

Is List ‘taking over’ the GOP?  It seems to me that if you are going to preach it, you ought to do it.  If he is in the fight, good, but I do not see the insight in his post that would prove such.  For him, and his clique at RedState, I’ll lend a hand to show what has happened to warrant what many see as a possible alternative.  And I’d like to stress the fact that Palin didn’t say she’s going third, she said, ‘if’ the current GOP establishment keeps on doing what they are doing, it certainly is a factor.

In mid 2009, we began to see a serious uptick in the number of people interested in joining the Republican party, asking to become precinct delegates.  These were the tea party people, some Ron Paul people, and some mainstream conservatives.  The political nature of people who wish to make changes is not always pleasant, and almost immediately, moderates within the party bristled at these newbies, unless the newcomers did not overtly declare what they were up to.  Bad blood combined with primary challenges in 2010 caused a greater divide, with the party insisting that the tea party had very little if anything to do with any wins in 2010, but rather, a vast acceptance of the Republican message and the great amounts of money they raised.

Those raised dollars and wins were directly the result of ordinary Americans being bold and strong and sure of themselves, that if they got many to vote for Republicans, that the Republicans would do what they said during the campaign, and defund Obamacare, and really use the power of the purse in the House to stop Obama.

The newcomers to politics then watched in horror as John Boehner thwarted every attempt to defund Obamacare, and basically told the tea party to go pound sand.  Many said, “Screw this crap,” and headed home.

It was then that a third party was floated.

Convinced that the tea party and the Republican party could still coexist within the same ranks, thousands of activists worked to keep the tea party and moderates off each other’s toes, when in waltzed Rove and the rest of the establishment, telling us all that the only true conservative who could win a Presidential election against Obama the Horrible was Willard Romney.

More bad blood was at hand when the consultants’ scorched earth policy to win Willard the nomination, culminated with a rules change via Mitt Romney’s attorney at the Tampa convention which would have seriously gutted any attempt by conservative activists to have a say in any future Presidential election.

Predictable by any standard, the moderate Mitt Romney lost to the ultra-radical leftist punk-in-chief.

Angered and rightly so, conservatives called for the ousting of Boehner, and were ridiculed.  Boehner purged key conservatives from leadership positions based on his own ego and, the liberal talking heads began pushing for amnesty and calling for the dismissal of social conservatives, in short, THEY FRACTURED THEIR OWN PARTY.

As Michelle Malkin put it, Rove is now heading up an “incumbency protection racket,” but that’s just part of the story.

Congressional staffers are creating a second layer of protection for their congresslizards who got elected in 2010 and are hanging on till the bennie’s kick in.  State GOP’s are preferentially treating moderates for state committee positions, and ostracizing those who speak out.  All social conservatives who speak against gay “marriage” are being villified and preferential treatment is given to young libertarians who would force God out of our public square as happily as the Marxist left.  Young moderates with ambition are accepting the name, “The Young Establishment,” and are happy to be so.

These recent actions by the establishment are primary protection.  They figured out the game in 2010, and are implementing guards to keep moderates, or teapublicans who have turned moderate in place.

At the same time, they are strategically abusing the word conservative, using Zuckerberg’s front group and Soros-funded ‘Evangelical’ groups to push amnesty, and I’m sure you know the rest of the very anti-conservative path they have taken.

Considering that the only way politicians on the right side of the aisle keep their jobs is if conservatives continue to vote for them, the only leverage we have right now is to refuse to work for or vote for them.  A step further from that, is to actively work to defeat them, which is only deployed if there is a viable third party effort.

Now, taking over the GOP, as you can see, is a huge task, but List’s arguments for precinct delegate domination has its good points and bad points.

You can fill your precincts with conservatives, and then some are not really sure they want to be that outspoken and begin to see the moderate point of view.  You would have to love politics and the political arena to really do a boffo job of it, and people like that are very hard to find, not to mention, due to the recent turn against its base, people are unwilling to touch anything Republican right now.  The tea party has left in a lot of areas, distrusting everyone connected with the GOP, even those of us who are working hard.   But a true problem is, even if you fill all your precincts with willing conservatives, there are only so many who become convention delegates, and there are always young, unmarried, untethered, ambitious yesmen to fill up district paid positions, put there to quarantine the outspoken conservative.

And I haven’t even yet commented on how Fox News is hurting us too.

All is done by the establishment to quash what is already happening in the districts, to control the message, and to stop conservative influence.

Think that’ll stop?  Things are getting messed up quick, and if the establishment keeps treating the base in such a way, they will be responsible for ending the Republican party forever, they already may have.

And that is really Palin’s point.  Since the RNC and top PACs seem to think they have the winning keys, rejecting Reagan’s legacy and path to victory, twisting the truth and so on, it is up to them if they want to save the party.

Ironically, the Republican party report prematurely labeled, “The GOP autopsy report,” may have been the biggest contributing factor to its death.

The current leadership is not building bridges, it is actively silencing its base.  The difference between now and the Reagan revolution, is that back then, there were a good number of Republican politicians who were unwilling to demoralize its base.  Now, we have a massive consultant class, literally eating up all the campaign cash, and a handful of self-appointed swami’s who think they know the path to victory, though their records couldn’t attest to it.

Will the GOP be willing to turn around? Not unless we have conservative leadership, and the only way to change the current leadership is if some State Committeeman challenges Reince Priebus as RNC chief, and gets in, yet I do not think we have a majority of conservatives in the RNC to pull that off, and every conservative must publicly get an answer from every Congressional hopeful to the question, “Will you support John Boehner as Speaker?” If they answer yes, they have chosen poorly.

As to the complaint that we will be ruled for a very long time with Democrats in charge without any hope of reprieve if a third party forms, we just lost the biggest, most winnable contest this nation has ever seen, and with the current leadership silencing conservatives, we will be ruled for a very long time with Democrats in charge.

UPDATE: List responded to an email, saying that he honestly thought the picture of Palin was a flattering, real picture of her, and ran out of time to replace the pic before the whole thing blew up.  I’m not sure I buy that.  To have a pic of Santa in July is odd.


17 Responses to RedState misstates Palin and misses the point.

  1. bob lamb says:

    Couldn't agree with you more about the massive consultant class eating up campaign cash.

    The swamis are the same ones who predicted a Romney victory. Rove and his ilk cannot be trusted as far at their fat rears can be thrown.

  2. task says:

    As a person not particularly interested in cleavage it, nevertheless, seems apparent that you really do not have to photoshop a picture of Sara Palin to find one that demonstrates it. It might be difficult to find one without it and you might be forced to photoshop the other way. That being said it should also be noted that a 3rd party could either be a solution or a problem as a remedy for our government woes which is somewhat analogous to our civil war. And as much as the elitist strategists running the GOP might wish to blame tea party, patriot, constitutional types for crafting a 3rd party solution it is not they (we) that left the Republican Party. That party left us. Conservatives never changed and just the way the Democrat Party left Ronald Reagan the Republican Party, not only left its’ base and its’ values and principles but then has the arrogance and temerity to disparage the only aspect of what it once was that has provided the Party with the recent victories it enjoyed.

    A 3rd party (let’s call it the Constitutional Party) would wreck havoc in the legislature where, if it remained steadfast on principles, would absolutely stymie democratic agendas even without control of the Executive branch. Then Boehner (after he is ousted) would understand the power of controlling one-half of one-third of the government.

    A 3rd party query might be evaluated in terms of numbers. Would it be more of an advantage (regarding Constitutionality) with a third party winning 32 percent, republicans winning 29 percent and democrats winning 39 percent in the legislative bodies despite the fact that the Executive branch remains democratic? Just look what Cruz, Lee and Paul have already achieved and they are but only three out of a hundred. Exactly what will be the fate of Founding Principles if Jeb Bush were to win the Presidency with over 50 percent of the popular vote? No one need wonder long. The real problem would ultimately relate to who the next Supreme Justice would be.

    The workingmen and workingwomen of America are ripe for a real change that resurrects the principles that made this country what it was. At this point in our history there is a mad rush to stop the large, evident socialist overreach that is the hallmark of the Obama Administration. The present Republican Party may try not to notice but the rest of cannot help but notice that the Elephant in the room is not what it used to be

  3. jeffdotcooper says:

    Very well stated. I gave up on earlier this year…today was the first time back at so I could read List's article.

  4. says:

    I'm a longtime friend of Peter's, a longtime poster at Redstate, and a precinct committeeman in the Republican Party. I'm also a Sarah Palin fan, as is Peter.

    Speaking for myself, I'd have voted for her in 2012 over any of the other Republicans in the primary, including Rick Santorum — for whom I was a convention delegate in Tampa.

    When Sarah is attacked, we rush to defend her. That reflexive defense of Palin is misplaced in this case. Not that she's wrong, but that Peter wasn't attacking her.

    The point of his post was to get conservatives to work inside the Republican Party. It wasn't to attack Sarah. Yes, he disagreed with her threat to go third party. That's not an attack. And if Peter says he didn't know the picture was photoshopped, then he didn't.

    • Jen says:

      Hey Loren, nice to hear from you! I believe I wrote about how the conservatives are already filling precinct positions. Sarah never threatened to go third party, and I'm surprised you thought she has. I pointed out how Peter said he didn't know it was photoshopped, I concluded he just likes cleavage.

    • Gary P says:

      Loren, if List is indeed a Palin fan, why did he pick that demeaning photo? [and NO legit photo of Palin shows cleavage, BTW] Oh, and for someone who supposedly likes Palin, he sure did write a hate filled, lie filled piece on her. With friends like List, who the hell needs enemies!

      Also, what the hell are you doing hanging out at RedState in the first place. It's a horrible place filled with horrible people.

      Erick Erickson is a spineless hack who openly hates women. He, along with Tucker Carlson, has called Governor Palin a "MILF" not exactly what a decent man would call a mother of five, and the former Governor, Vice Presidential candidate, and possibly our next President.

    • rodpatrick says:

      If Peter is just an ordinary idiot, then I'll buy your argument. But by writing at Redstate, it is a given assumption that Peter is wannabe conservative pundit.

      There are so many sources of Palin's picture. Why choose the picture used by Fiscal Times in attacking Palin?

      Thus, accepting Peter's lame excuse is just like tolerating BAD JOURNALISM.

    • Jen Kuznicki says:

      Hey Loren, nice to hear from you! I believe I wrote about how the conservatives are already filling precinct positions. Sarah never threatened to go third party, and I’m surprised you thought she has. I pointed out how Peter said he didn’t know it was photoshopped, I concluded he just likes cleavage.

    • Stricia says:

      I, knowing a bit about insanity, am surprised that you (being the sanest commenter at RS) still have the ego strength to post commentary over at
      Just sayin'

  5. Carlton West says:

    I always confuse Erik Erickson with Candy Crowley. They look alike & work for the same moribund channel. As for the Republican Party, it deserves to die. It has been going down the toilet since 1988.

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